Bidirectional List Navigation

Perhaps I missed it in the documentation, but it seems the only way to proceed through a list is one direction, this is workable but I can't tell you how often I overstep and end up circling all over, or I'm coordinating to options in a list and get lost in the circle (especially in the general menu) I have a few proposals for bidirectional navigation, if it already exists and I missed it let me know and I'll leave youu

OPTION 1:

Menu Option: Up/Down Navigates Lists

I don't ever use the up/down buttons, and from what I can tell they seem to duplicate the knob function. It can be useful for specifying single steps, but the cake's knob has nice solid 'ticks' so single values is pretty easy. The menu could also have three options to reverse this so ie: List Navigation [better name here]: 1. none (current) 2. up/down 3. knob OPTION 2: HOLD + Knob or Arrows Instead of tapping, ie: [menu], if I held the button it could push knob control to list navigation

Hope this is helpful