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Understanding new MIDI CC controls

Hi,

I am trying to understand the scope of what's possible with the new MIDI CC modulations. Am I right in my understanding that MIDI CC changes are still only sent to the global CC Output MIDI channel, and not the MIDI channel assigned to the ARP track itself?

Does this mean that with a no-DAW setup I am unable to send MIDI CC changes to more than one device – for example, controlling the cutoff of all four synths?

Cheers

Mark

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Comments (7)

paul

Dec 02

That's brilliant, thanks. I must have just missed the right update but got it now. And thanks for considering what must seem like weird and wacky ideas from your perspective.

paul

Dec 02

I was just going to query this after trying it out today and being puzzled. Good to hear the 'per track' option is coming. A fun update - nice one! Was also going to ask... is there any plan to be able to pick your own number of bars for the modulators to act over? If I have a note pattern that's 32 bars long, I'd really like to have my modulators span 31 bars, or 33 or whatever.

Chris Brown

Dec 02

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Per Track CC channelss is available now. Head to Midicake.com/downloads for the latest update.

Setting the exact numbers of bars for modulation rate is not currently available but is something we might consider. I haven't done this yet because it involves lots of scrolling (1 tick to 256 bars). plus, it increases the memory needed to store the selected values. Also, where is the limit? You might want to define a specific number of MIDI clock ticks! I'm just highlighting that it isn't a straightforward change.

Perhaps we could implement it as an advanced option where you can choose a specific granularity at a global level and this overrides the limited mod rate options but limits the range of options. I'll think on it and see what we can do.

Thanks for the suggestion though, much appreciated!

mippy

Nov 24

Hi Chris,

Thanks for your reply. Yes that's sounds good.

I can see it's not such a straight forward thing to implement as there as so many different combinations of using them.

I like that they are sent even when the track is muted, which means any combination of tracks might want to send its CC data to any MIDI channel, whilst still maintaining separate tracks for notes too.

The new support is also still very good as it allows some pretty good control over some of the ambient drone patches I use that are controlled with many parameters, making for an ever changing/different but repeatable drone.

With the new pre-mod setting it can allow for interesting transitions too.

And adding my second ARP could allow for even greater control still!

Cheers

Mark

Chris Brown

Nov 27

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The update is done and you can now select MIDI CC Output to use the Track MIDI Channel for the CC Output. In Set Mode. go to menu >> CC Output MIDI Channel and select "Per Track" Then all CC Output, either by changing the CC Value parameter or using the Modulators to target CC Output, will use the Tracks MIDI Out Channel. Check out this video: https://youtube.com/shorts/ewdKY0dDKCQ?si=JIhBz2UqMvBhKcjo The updated firmware is available from https://midicake.com/downloads. Please let me know how you get on and if this resolves it for you. Cheers

mippy

Nov 28

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This is really great :) Thanks for adding it.

This gives a great level of control over dynamics on orcherstral/choir libraries I use where modulation of dynamics on CC1 is often used.

The Pre/Post Mod feature gives even greater control to slightly delay this too.

Using both Mod A and B to further shape the sound can create even more natural sound results. Creating affects like this:

The latter two of these show some symmetry in the results.

Cheers

Mark

Chris Brown

Nov 24

Yes, It's currently sending CC on a single channel. I'll get an update out very soon that sets the CC to be output on the associated track channel. Does that sound ok?